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	<title>Comments on: The Great Debate II: pencils with or without an eraser?</title>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/10/the-great-debate-ii-pencils-with-or-without-an-eraser/comment-page-1#comment-58984</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always really disliked the erasers on Pencils.  They last a short time and then you are left with a sharp, ugly ferrule. I like soft, dust-free erasers and almost always have one on me.  When I moved to Korea I noticed that the ends of pencils (made by Korean&#039;s Dong-a, Japan&#039;s Tombow, or Germany&#039;s Staedtler) were eraser free - not just the drawing pencils but the writing pencils as well.  Some had a nice, smooth, rounded back, but others just had the exposed graphite.

After returning to the US I bought a few boxes of pencils - I like the terracycle recycled newspaper pencils and Office Max&#039;s natural wood pencils. When I need a new one I pull it out of the box and pull the ferrule off with a pair of pliers I keep by my desk.  Then I sharpen the end I pulled the farrule off of.  This leaves the pencil with a smooth back end.  It looks as if the pencil was made to be eraser free.  The manufacturer&#039;s text also sharpens off first.  Sometimes I cover the exposed graphite with a little black nail polish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always really disliked the erasers on Pencils.  They last a short time and then you are left with a sharp, ugly ferrule. I like soft, dust-free erasers and almost always have one on me.  When I moved to Korea I noticed that the ends of pencils (made by Korean&#8217;s Dong-a, Japan&#8217;s Tombow, or Germany&#8217;s Staedtler) were eraser free &#8211; not just the drawing pencils but the writing pencils as well.  Some had a nice, smooth, rounded back, but others just had the exposed graphite.</p>
<p>After returning to the US I bought a few boxes of pencils &#8211; I like the terracycle recycled newspaper pencils and Office Max&#8217;s natural wood pencils. When I need a new one I pull it out of the box and pull the ferrule off with a pair of pliers I keep by my desk.  Then I sharpen the end I pulled the farrule off of.  This leaves the pencil with a smooth back end.  It looks as if the pencil was made to be eraser free.  The manufacturer&#8217;s text also sharpens off first.  Sometimes I cover the exposed graphite with a little black nail polish.</p>
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		<title>By: Renard DellaFave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renard DellaFave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like having both, and the way it is in the USA with the pricey ones having lacquered ends and the rest eraser&#039;d appeals to me.  When I bought Palominos, I got some of each.

I love the Pentel Clic-Erase, preferably the older one w/o grip, and if I were drawing, I&#039;d use that instead of an on-pencil eraser if I had one.

For general writing, I just don&#039;t erase much.  Even erasing the same number of words, I think I use less than most people being lighter and more selective.  I frequently did math with a pen in college, and also, am not opposed to scratching out a word here and there.  That said, in college I was very happy that the Sanford Logo IV had a nice large very high quality eraser.  But, unlike my friends, I think I used two of the (inch long) erasers in as many years.

So, assuming the eraser works halfway decently (dried ones on vintage pencils, ugh) then I like having it.  Feels &quot;right&quot; for a writing pencil.  I like the ferrule, I like bouncing it on the desk, all sorts of tactile things about it.

Now, should I use up the eraser and the pencil be both long enough &amp; expensive enough, I _might_ just use a hobby saw and cut the ferrule off.  A lacquered end is classy, but I see plenty of euro-pencils sold with sawn or sanded ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like having both, and the way it is in the USA with the pricey ones having lacquered ends and the rest eraser&#8217;d appeals to me.  When I bought Palominos, I got some of each.</p>
<p>I love the Pentel Clic-Erase, preferably the older one w/o grip, and if I were drawing, I&#8217;d use that instead of an on-pencil eraser if I had one.</p>
<p>For general writing, I just don&#8217;t erase much.  Even erasing the same number of words, I think I use less than most people being lighter and more selective.  I frequently did math with a pen in college, and also, am not opposed to scratching out a word here and there.  That said, in college I was very happy that the Sanford Logo IV had a nice large very high quality eraser.  But, unlike my friends, I think I used two of the (inch long) erasers in as many years.</p>
<p>So, assuming the eraser works halfway decently (dried ones on vintage pencils, ugh) then I like having it.  Feels &#8220;right&#8221; for a writing pencil.  I like the ferrule, I like bouncing it on the desk, all sorts of tactile things about it.</p>
<p>Now, should I use up the eraser and the pencil be both long enough &amp; expensive enough, I _might_ just use a hobby saw and cut the ferrule off.  A lacquered end is classy, but I see plenty of euro-pencils sold with sawn or sanded ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/10/the-great-debate-ii-pencils-with-or-without-an-eraser/comment-page-1#comment-32100</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like having the eraser on the pencil.  If I need to erase something, I just flip the pencil over, erase, flip it back and continue writing.  I don&#039;t have to put the pencil down, pick up the eraser, erase, put the eraser down, pick up the pencil and continue writing.  Plus I love the aesthetics of the ferrule and eraser.  It adds another potentially distinctive element to a pencil&#039;s design, which I miss with eraserless pencils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like having the eraser on the pencil.  If I need to erase something, I just flip the pencil over, erase, flip it back and continue writing.  I don&#8217;t have to put the pencil down, pick up the eraser, erase, put the eraser down, pick up the pencil and continue writing.  Plus I love the aesthetics of the ferrule and eraser.  It adds another potentially distinctive element to a pencil&#8217;s design, which I miss with eraserless pencils.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice site! Found it while googling for the Staedtler Oversized 151 that I just bought. 

I personally prefer no erasers. It could be because the pencils I&#039;ve used in the past have erasers of crap quality, and I&#039;m particular about how well my erasers... erase. And I erase a lot (LOL) so the little bit would run out in no time. 

But even if the attached eraser is of a decent quality, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll use it much because I&#039;m more of a block eraser type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice site! Found it while googling for the Staedtler Oversized 151 that I just bought. </p>
<p>I personally prefer no erasers. It could be because the pencils I&#8217;ve used in the past have erasers of crap quality, and I&#8217;m particular about how well my erasers&#8230; erase. And I erase a lot (LOL) so the little bit would run out in no time. </p>
<p>But even if the attached eraser is of a decent quality, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll use it much because I&#8217;m more of a block eraser type.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to have an eraser attached. Problem is I like a hard lead (3H-5H), and I don&#039;t often see those pencils with an eraser in the shops. It seems to me if you don&#039;t like it you don&#039;t have to use it - but I guess it provides too much temptation (being so close), or effects the balance for some people. It sure would be neat if one could buy slip on ferrules. i suppose I could try to use those eraser caps instead, but they really are heavy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to have an eraser attached. Problem is I like a hard lead (3H-5H), and I don&#8217;t often see those pencils with an eraser in the shops. It seems to me if you don&#8217;t like it you don&#8217;t have to use it &#8211; but I guess it provides too much temptation (being so close), or effects the balance for some people. It sure would be neat if one could buy slip on ferrules. i suppose I could try to use those eraser caps instead, but they really are heavy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>without, i hate it when the eraser runs out and u automatically go to rub it out with it and end ub scratching the paper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>without, i hate it when the eraser runs out and u automatically go to rub it out with it and end ub scratching the paper</p>
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		<title>By: Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy the erasers on the Dixon Ticonderoga, a good behind-the-ear pencil, but I cherish most my stash of Palomino and Lyra Orlow-Techno eraserless pencils.  Excellent poll with telling results!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy the erasers on the Dixon Ticonderoga, a good behind-the-ear pencil, but I cherish most my stash of Palomino and Lyra Orlow-Techno eraserless pencils.  Excellent poll with telling results!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll comment without voting, as I really have no preference (and it seems to be too late to vote anyway). I like the varieties of beauty and design in distinctive ferrules (esp. the classic Mongol, before it was updated). But I also like pencils without erasers, which in their austerity somehow make me think of unfiltered cigarettes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll comment without voting, as I really have no preference (and it seems to be too late to vote anyway). I like the varieties of beauty and design in distinctive ferrules (esp. the classic Mongol, before it was updated). But I also like pencils without erasers, which in their austerity somehow make me think of unfiltered cigarettes.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palominos with eraser look pretty sharp and the added weight, much like a fountain pen with the cap posted, improves the balance of an otherwise feather light instrument.  And a balanced pencil makes for an accurate projectile, should the need arise.  Don&#039;t make me go Jason Bourne up in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palominos with eraser look pretty sharp and the added weight, much like a fountain pen with the cap posted, improves the balance of an otherwise feather light instrument.  And a balanced pencil makes for an accurate projectile, should the need arise.  Don&#8217;t make me go Jason Bourne up in here.</p>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, some gremlins knocked the site offline for much of today, so we&#039;ll extend the poll for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, some gremlins knocked the site offline for much of today, so we&#8217;ll extend the poll for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all for some great comments. I&#039;ll leave the poll open for another 24 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for some great comments. I&#8217;ll leave the poll open for another 24 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also prefer the look of a pencil without an eraser, especially one that has the ends sealed an lacquered like the Tombo Mono (my current favorite), and my Lumograph&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also prefer the look of a pencil without an eraser, especially one that has the ends sealed an lacquered like the Tombo Mono (my current favorite), and my Lumograph&#8217;s.</p>
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