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	<title>Comments on: The hunt for the EE grade pencil</title>
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		<title>By: Lexikaliker &#187; Blog-Archiv &#187; EX-EXB</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-34213</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexikaliker &#187; Blog-Archiv &#187; EX-EXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Details zum Härtegrad EE gibt es unter &#8220;The hunt for the EE grade pencil&#8221; und &#8220;Staedtler Mars Lumograph EE update&#8221; bei pencil [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Details zum Härtegrad EE gibt es unter &#8220;The hunt for the EE grade pencil&#8221; und &#8220;Staedtler Mars Lumograph EE update&#8221; bei pencil [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Hart</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-33740</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a student ask me,&quot; what does the EE on my pencil mean? &quot;

I went to ASK,  and there it was, Khup Kuhn Khup,

Kuhn Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a student ask me,&#8221; what does the EE on my pencil mean? &#8221;</p>
<p>I went to ASK,  and there it was, Khup Kuhn Khup,</p>
<p>Kuhn Jan</p>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-32670</link>
		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some more information &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, though lead refills were not considered.

I believe that the current EE and 7B and 8B pencils are &quot;carbon&quot; pencils - a graphite/charcoal blend. (Also made by others.)

I&#039;m guessing based on comments that the EB and EE grades were once solely (or primarily) graphite based.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some more information <a href="http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update" rel="nofollow">here</a>, though lead refills were not considered.</p>
<p>I believe that the current EE and 7B and 8B pencils are &#8220;carbon&#8221; pencils &#8211; a graphite/charcoal blend. (Also made by others.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing based on comments that the EB and EE grades were once solely (or primarily) graphite based.</p>
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		<title>By: TraditionalAnimator</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-32664</link>
		<dc:creator>TraditionalAnimator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.rsaum.co.uk is no longer available, so I still don&#039;t know what the reason for removing EB and EE is. I have probably the only copy of a 2MM EB Lead refill in California, and I&#039;d sell all I had to get that line back into production and distribution! They can be erased compleately with an electric eraser, and they don&#039;t smudge or smear no matter how heavy a line you put on any kind of papaer if you can&#039;t use a toxic fixative or a scanner! Is there some sora petition or boycott we could send to the company to get at least those leads back on the market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rsaum.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.rsaum.co.uk</a> is no longer available, so I still don&#8217;t know what the reason for removing EB and EE is. I have probably the only copy of a 2MM EB Lead refill in California, and I&#8217;d sell all I had to get that line back into production and distribution! They can be erased compleately with an electric eraser, and they don&#8217;t smudge or smear no matter how heavy a line you put on any kind of papaer if you can&#8217;t use a toxic fixative or a scanner! Is there some sora petition or boycott we could send to the company to get at least those leads back on the market?</p>
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		<title>By: Eunjae</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-31665</link>
		<dc:creator>Eunjae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where can i get those pencil?
I need to get &#039;EE&#039; and &#039;EB&#039;. 
so, If u see my reply, u can send me a email. 
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where can i get those pencil?<br />
I need to get &#8216;EE&#8217; and &#8216;EB&#8217;.<br />
so, If u see my reply, u can send me a email.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: maura</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-30849</link>
		<dc:creator>maura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i think they have changed. the 7B actually &#039;blacker&#039; than the EB. But I have found some EE&#039;s on ebay in a mixed box and today boxes of 12 EE&#039;s. I&#039;m happy..... EE&#039;s are my favourite drawing tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i think they have changed. the 7B actually &#8216;blacker&#8217; than the EB. But I have found some EE&#8217;s on ebay in a mixed box and today boxes of 12 EE&#8217;s. I&#8217;m happy&#8230;.. EE&#8217;s are my favourite drawing tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunther</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-30210</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between 1996 and 2001, &quot;EB&quot; was changed to &quot;7B&quot; and &quot;EE&quot; to &quot;8B&quot;. This was done in an effort to standardize the designations; &quot;EB&quot; and &quot;EE&quot; were not very well-known (e. g. Faber-Castell never had them) and didn&#039;t fit into the Hx/Bx scheme. The formulae of the 7B/EB and 8B/EE pencils have not been changed (besides some minor changes that are applied to all grades now and then for optimisation etc.). - Source: Staedtler Germany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between 1996 and 2001, &#8220;EB&#8221; was changed to &#8220;7B&#8221; and &#8220;EE&#8221; to &#8220;8B&#8221;. This was done in an effort to standardize the designations; &#8220;EB&#8221; and &#8220;EE&#8221; were not very well-known (e. g. Faber-Castell never had them) and didn&#8217;t fit into the Hx/Bx scheme. The formulae of the 7B/EB and 8B/EE pencils have not been changed (besides some minor changes that are applied to all grades now and then for optimisation etc.). &#8211; Source: Staedtler Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: maura</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-30074</link>
		<dc:creator>maura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that the Staedtler Mars Lumograph 100 EB is indeed now an 8B. But the EE seems not quite the same as 7B, well it didn&#039;t seem so a long time ago, don&#039;t have one right now for experimentation. The E&#039;s seem to have been discontinued a couple of years ago and they are my FAVOURITE pencils. Perhaps originally used for use on drafting film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that the Staedtler Mars Lumograph 100 EB is indeed now an 8B. But the EE seems not quite the same as 7B, well it didn&#8217;t seem so a long time ago, don&#8217;t have one right now for experimentation. The E&#8217;s seem to have been discontinued a couple of years ago and they are my FAVOURITE pencils. Perhaps originally used for use on drafting film.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Dawg</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2007/12/the-hunt-for-the-ee-grade-pencil/comment-page-1#comment-28754</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Endangered Pencil list....ain&#039;t that the truth. 

I&#039;ve got some nice unfinished cedar advertising pencils from an insurance agency and the letter went out today &quot;Where did you get these? They&#039;re wonderful!&quot; 

Film at eleven. If this guy comes through for me I could dump my lifetime supply of Ganske for Senate advertising pencils....they&#039;re not very nice.

However, prewar vintage advertising pencils are usually pretty nice stuff, and they&#039;re not hard to find here. Farmers never threw anything away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Endangered Pencil list&#8230;.ain&#8217;t that the truth. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got some nice unfinished cedar advertising pencils from an insurance agency and the letter went out today &#8220;Where did you get these? They&#8217;re wonderful!&#8221; </p>
<p>Film at eleven. If this guy comes through for me I could dump my lifetime supply of Ganske for Senate advertising pencils&#8230;.they&#8217;re not very nice.</p>
<p>However, prewar vintage advertising pencils are usually pretty nice stuff, and they&#8217;re not hard to find here. Farmers never threw anything away.</p>
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