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	<title>Comments on: Staedtler Mars Lumograph EE update</title>
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		<title>By: Debi</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update/comment-page-1#comment-37037</link>
		<dc:creator>Debi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondered also, so I emailed STAEDTLER headquarters in Germany and this is their reply:

The difference between the degrees 7B/8B and the other degrees of the Lumograph pencils is that the two softest ones indeed contain carbon black whereas for the other ones graphite is used for the blackness (7B contains carbon black as well as a small quantity of graphite; 8B only contains carbon black and no graphite). Carbon black allows a deeper black which is often demanded by artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered also, so I emailed STAEDTLER headquarters in Germany and this is their reply:</p>
<p>The difference between the degrees 7B/8B and the other degrees of the Lumograph pencils is that the two softest ones indeed contain carbon black whereas for the other ones graphite is used for the blackness (7B contains carbon black as well as a small quantity of graphite; 8B only contains carbon black and no graphite). Carbon black allows a deeper black which is often demanded by artists.</p>
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		<title>By: cicak</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update/comment-page-1#comment-35781</link>
		<dc:creator>cicak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from malaysia. i still have an old box of staedler mars EE pencils that i bought at least 20 years ago there. recently i live in indonesia. up till now i can still easily buy the EE and EB pencils in bigger book shops. the new EE is not as sticky as the old ones. the EB feels like somewhere between EE and 6 or 8B. i still like the EE they sell now. it&#039;s dark and hard enough that it doesn&#039;t break easily, unlike the 6 or 8 Bs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from malaysia. i still have an old box of staedler mars EE pencils that i bought at least 20 years ago there. recently i live in indonesia. up till now i can still easily buy the EE and EB pencils in bigger book shops. the new EE is not as sticky as the old ones. the EB feels like somewhere between EE and 6 or 8B. i still like the EE they sell now. it&#8217;s dark and hard enough that it doesn&#8217;t break easily, unlike the 6 or 8 Bs</p>
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		<title>By: Barrel Of A Pencil</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update/comment-page-1#comment-34628</link>
		<dc:creator>Barrel Of A Pencil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a bunch of fiends!  :&gt;)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a bunch of fiends!  :&gt;)))</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update/comment-page-1#comment-34622</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have fiends all over looking for EB or EE pencils.
I do not understand the &quot;replacement&quot; of EB with 8B! It is not a replacement...just like you can&#039;t replace a dog with a fish.

8B...ugly silver toned black in my drawings...I do not like it...it&#039;s making me really frustrated that the only life on my drawing table is in one and a half inched of EB.

Why is it sold only in Malaysia??? Why are they so special and how can I get some from over there? ebay is no help... and the net is coming up empty so far.

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have fiends all over looking for EB or EE pencils.<br />
I do not understand the &#8220;replacement&#8221; of EB with 8B! It is not a replacement&#8230;just like you can&#8217;t replace a dog with a fish.</p>
<p>8B&#8230;ugly silver toned black in my drawings&#8230;I do not like it&#8230;it&#8217;s making me really frustrated that the only life on my drawing table is in one and a half inched of EB.</p>
<p>Why is it sold only in Malaysia??? Why are they so special and how can I get some from over there? ebay is no help&#8230; and the net is coming up empty so far.</p>
<p>:(</p>
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		<title>By: Lexikaliker &#187; Blog-Archiv &#187; EX-EXB</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update/comment-page-1#comment-34212</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexikaliker &#187; Blog-Archiv &#187; EX-EXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Details zum Härtegrad EE gibt es unter &#8220;The hunt for the EE grade pencil&#8221; und &#8220;Staedtler Mars Lumograph EE update&#8221; bei pencil [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Details zum Härtegrad EE gibt es unter &#8220;The hunt for the EE grade pencil&#8221; und &#8220;Staedtler Mars Lumograph EE update&#8221; bei pencil [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feureau</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/03/staedtler-mars-lumograph-ee-update/comment-page-1#comment-32724</link>
		<dc:creator>Feureau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww, man!
I was wondering why I&#039;m having a harder time finding these pencils. I still have a couple-a those EB EE and EF pencils on stock but I guess, that&#039;s it, after they&#039;re gone there&#039;s no way I can get them anymore.
I found a couple-a those 8B pencils but they&#039;re just a darker B pencils, not one of them soft leads like the EE ones. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, man!<br />
I was wondering why I&#8217;m having a harder time finding these pencils. I still have a couple-a those EB EE and EF pencils on stock but I guess, that&#8217;s it, after they&#8217;re gone there&#8217;s no way I can get them anymore.<br />
I found a couple-a those 8B pencils but they&#8217;re just a darker B pencils, not one of them soft leads like the EE ones. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Felipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, 8B, that&#039;s like a sharpie lol.

So were you able to get hold of a new box of EE pencils? that would be amazing

Seems like a consumer-help factor, I&#039;d be confused if I had used lettered-scale pencils all my life and then changed to a weird number/letter scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 8B, that&#8217;s like a sharpie lol.</p>
<p>So were you able to get hold of a new box of EE pencils? that would be amazing</p>
<p>Seems like a consumer-help factor, I&#8217;d be confused if I had used lettered-scale pencils all my life and then changed to a weird number/letter scale.</p>
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