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		<title>By: Lyne Facey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyne Facey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please excuse my request if it is inappropriate.
I am a teacher of Visual Commincation at Hampton Park Secondary College, Victoria, Australia and wanted to know if you would consider donating a set of drawing pencils and/or coloured pencils to the students in my year 12 class. I would like them to have every opportunity of success in their exams and it would be so encouraging for them to have excellent equipment. These sorts of products are generally out of their reach.There are 13 in my class, but I have managed to save 4 Derwent sets for this purpose already. I would really appreciate your contribution. I will send a photo of the class with their sets and an appreciation certificate,if you are able to assist. 
Thank you so much for your time.
Lyne
PS Anything that you could manage for these students would be greatly appreciated (they are great kids and I want to help them as much as I can)
School email:
facey.lyne.l@edumail.vic.gov.au
Each year we have a group of students from Japan visit our college, for one week and they always find their stay most enlightening and educational</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please excuse my request if it is inappropriate.<br />
I am a teacher of Visual Commincation at Hampton Park Secondary College, Victoria, Australia and wanted to know if you would consider donating a set of drawing pencils and/or coloured pencils to the students in my year 12 class. I would like them to have every opportunity of success in their exams and it would be so encouraging for them to have excellent equipment. These sorts of products are generally out of their reach.There are 13 in my class, but I have managed to save 4 Derwent sets for this purpose already. I would really appreciate your contribution. I will send a photo of the class with their sets and an appreciation certificate,if you are able to assist.<br />
Thank you so much for your time.<br />
Lyne<br />
PS Anything that you could manage for these students would be greatly appreciated (they are great kids and I want to help them as much as I can)<br />
School email:<br />
<a href="mailto:facey.lyne.l@edumail.vic.gov.au">facey.lyne.l@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><br />
Each year we have a group of students from Japan visit our college, for one week and they always find their stay most enlightening and educational</p>
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		<title>By: Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 11:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://davesmechanicalpencils.blogspot.com/2007/11/mysterious-kotobuki.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kotobuki&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s role in the market of mechanical pencils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of <a href="http://davesmechanicalpencils.blogspot.com/2007/11/mysterious-kotobuki.html" rel="nofollow">Kotobuki</a>&#8217;s role in the market of mechanical pencils.</p>
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		<title>By: WoodChuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>WoodChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atta boy Matt.  Ride that Palomino! yee-hah!

PencilAdmin - FYI - There is a long history of a rather extensive sub-contracting network of small producers in Japan.  As with the Palomino, Pentel does not manufacture any pencils themselves.  This is certainly the case also with the Craft Design Item 17 pencil as well, it&#039;s been produced by sub contractors for the marketing entity.  Some of the companies specialize in just the production of the raw pencils, some just do finishing, some do everything.  The various sub-contractors usually also have ties to some of the larger producers like Mitsubishi or Tombow to make some pencils for them as well, though I expect both the Hi-Uni and the Mono are produced exclusively at the Mitsubishi and Tombow facilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atta boy Matt.  Ride that Palomino! yee-hah!</p>
<p>PencilAdmin &#8211; FYI &#8211; There is a long history of a rather extensive sub-contracting network of small producers in Japan.  As with the Palomino, Pentel does not manufacture any pencils themselves.  This is certainly the case also with the Craft Design Item 17 pencil as well, it&#8217;s been produced by sub contractors for the marketing entity.  Some of the companies specialize in just the production of the raw pencils, some just do finishing, some do everything.  The various sub-contractors usually also have ties to some of the larger producers like Mitsubishi or Tombow to make some pencils for them as well, though I expect both the Hi-Uni and the Mono are produced exclusively at the Mitsubishi and Tombow facilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the HB grade, Palomino smash like Hulk all who dare challenge its equine name!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the HB grade, Palomino smash like Hulk all who dare challenge its equine name!</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Wow. Wow. Frankly, I haven&#039;t known that California Republic pencils are not made in California. LOL. I have to check my whole CR collections tomorrow.

About Tombow MONO and MONO100 pencils, here&#039;s my poor tlanslation of the words on &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogfiles16.naver.net/data32/2008/4/2/127/blog_tbmn100_paperslit_kentjeong.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this paper&lt;/a&gt;, which was inside the plastic case of MONO100.
&quot;Thank you for buying MONO 100. MONO100 is the pencil whose feature has been extremely increased. There&#039;s 10 billion molecules per 1 cube millimeter. It is one of the world best pencil that overcome MONO, which has 8 billion molecules per 1 cube millimeter and was acclaimed by many people.&quot;
So MONO100 is the improved version of MONO. Hence I don&#039;t think MONO can replace MONO100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Wow. Wow. Frankly, I haven&#8217;t known that California Republic pencils are not made in California. LOL. I have to check my whole CR collections tomorrow.</p>
<p>About Tombow MONO and MONO100 pencils, here&#8217;s my poor tlanslation of the words on <a href="http://blogfiles16.naver.net/data32/2008/4/2/127/blog_tbmn100_paperslit_kentjeong.jpg" rel="nofollow">this paper</a>, which was inside the plastic case of MONO100.<br />
&#8220;Thank you for buying MONO 100. MONO100 is the pencil whose feature has been extremely increased. There&#8217;s 10 billion molecules per 1 cube millimeter. It is one of the world best pencil that overcome MONO, which has 8 billion molecules per 1 cube millimeter and was acclaimed by many people.&#8221;<br />
So MONO100 is the improved version of MONO. Hence I don&#8217;t think MONO can replace MONO100.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much admin. I think that you may well be on the way to filling the huge void left by the demise of &quot;Pencil Revolution&quot;

Thank you also for the info on the Mono-100. IMHO the best all round range of pencils available. Although the California Republic Palominos have also grabbed my attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much admin. I think that you may well be on the way to filling the huge void left by the demise of &#8220;Pencil Revolution&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you also for the info on the Mono-100. IMHO the best all round range of pencils available. Although the California Republic Palominos have also grabbed my attention.</p>
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		<title>By: PaddlePressure</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaddlePressure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a treat!  Keep up the fine work, penciladmin!</description>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the comments.

Johnny, wanting to buy a thousand of your favorite pencils echos many a past comment here, though people usually seem to settle on a gross (144) or three for their stash. 

Griffith, thanks for your insights. 

There are two large North American pencil makers left in the market, so it isn&#039;t difficult to get a sense of their products.

The European situation is less familiar to me - there are a few major companies that extensively export - Faber-Castell, Staedtler, Lyra, Koh-I-Noor, but also some quite large national pencil manufacturers that do not, and I have no sense of what those non-exporting manufacturers offer.

Barrel, thank you for the generous praise. I am glad you enjoy the website, though I am very far from being a scientist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the comments.</p>
<p>Johnny, wanting to buy a thousand of your favorite pencils echos many a past comment here, though people usually seem to settle on a gross (144) or three for their stash. </p>
<p>Griffith, thanks for your insights. </p>
<p>There are two large North American pencil makers left in the market, so it isn&#8217;t difficult to get a sense of their products.</p>
<p>The European situation is less familiar to me &#8211; there are a few major companies that extensively export &#8211; Faber-Castell, Staedtler, Lyra, Koh-I-Noor, but also some quite large national pencil manufacturers that do not, and I have no sense of what those non-exporting manufacturers offer.</p>
<p>Barrel, thank you for the generous praise. I am glad you enjoy the website, though I am very far from being a scientist.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwi-d</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiwi-d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posting, look forward to part 2.</description>
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		<title>By: Barrel Of A Pencil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barrel Of A Pencil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, you had me at the words &quot;Japanese pencils&quot;, but beyond that, with your graceful clear prose and methodical analysis, you prove that you are a born scientist.  You just keep outdoing yourself and it is a positive joy to read your blog.  I breathlessly await part two of the latest installment.  This is better than the movies, better than the TV by far.

I thought that was a UFO, but I&#039;ve never seen a photo of the business side of it such as you show here.  To your question regarding the &quot;red and rich&quot; cedar shavings produced by the Hi-Uni and Mono 100, I have recently read that the coloration is artificial unless the slats come from Eastern Red Cedar.  Probably I found this little nugget of information elsewhere here or got it from Petroski&#039;s book.  Also, indeed, &quot;what is wrong with other pencils&quot;?  Very occasionally I achieve stellar sharpening results with my Palominos in either a Prismacolor or Kum longpoint sharpener.  Thanks for the tour-de-pencil, can&#039;t wait to see the rest of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, you had me at the words &#8220;Japanese pencils&#8221;, but beyond that, with your graceful clear prose and methodical analysis, you prove that you are a born scientist.  You just keep outdoing yourself and it is a positive joy to read your blog.  I breathlessly await part two of the latest installment.  This is better than the movies, better than the TV by far.</p>
<p>I thought that was a UFO, but I&#8217;ve never seen a photo of the business side of it such as you show here.  To your question regarding the &#8220;red and rich&#8221; cedar shavings produced by the Hi-Uni and Mono 100, I have recently read that the coloration is artificial unless the slats come from Eastern Red Cedar.  Probably I found this little nugget of information elsewhere here or got it from Petroski&#8217;s book.  Also, indeed, &#8220;what is wrong with other pencils&#8221;?  Very occasionally I achieve stellar sharpening results with my Palominos in either a Prismacolor or Kum longpoint sharpener.  Thanks for the tour-de-pencil, can&#8217;t wait to see the rest of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Griffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am much interested in how pencil lovers out side Japan feel about Japanese pencils. Generally, I think, those made in Japanese are darker and softer than those in Europe or America. Also thicker in dimension. Probably these come from difference of criteria. 

Pentel, Mitsubishi, and Tombow are three great wood-cased pencil manufacturers. We can buy many kinds at any stationery shops in Japan. Especially Mitsubishi No.9000 and No.9800 are long sellers. The latter is still on sale and have a great popularity.

http://ciely.blog5.fc2.com/blog-entry-17.html

Recently, however, those designed for Mark Sheet(Mark sense in English) have been used more.


Anyway I am a Castel fanatic, for its colouring, long-life-lead and smoothness. I am looking forward to your continued report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am much interested in how pencil lovers out side Japan feel about Japanese pencils. Generally, I think, those made in Japanese are darker and softer than those in Europe or America. Also thicker in dimension. Probably these come from difference of criteria. </p>
<p>Pentel, Mitsubishi, and Tombow are three great wood-cased pencil manufacturers. We can buy many kinds at any stationery shops in Japan. Especially Mitsubishi No.9000 and No.9800 are long sellers. The latter is still on sale and have a great popularity.</p>
<p><a href="http://ciely.blog5.fc2.com/blog-entry-17.html" rel="nofollow">http://ciely.blog5.fc2.com/blog-entry-17.html</a></p>
<p>Recently, however, those designed for Mark Sheet(Mark sense in English) have been used more.</p>
<p>Anyway I am a Castel fanatic, for its colouring, long-life-lead and smoothness. I am looking forward to your continued report.</p>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tombow Mono 100 has not been discontinued! 

Tombow USA of Lawrenceville, GA have stopped directly carrying it. But the pencil was &quot;replaced&quot; only in a marketing sense. Tombow USA is promoting the second-tier Tombow Mono as their replacement. The USA packaging for the Mono has the words &quot;Professional Drawing Pencil,&quot; but the pencil identifies itself, and is known elsewhere as the &quot;Mono&quot;. 

There is at least one firm that shows photos of the Mono 100 at their website, but ships the Mono, so be careful when ordering this pencil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tombow Mono 100 has not been discontinued! </p>
<p>Tombow USA of Lawrenceville, GA have stopped directly carrying it. But the pencil was &#8220;replaced&#8221; only in a marketing sense. Tombow USA is promoting the second-tier Tombow Mono as their replacement. The USA packaging for the Mono has the words &#8220;Professional Drawing Pencil,&#8221; but the pencil identifies itself, and is known elsewhere as the &#8220;Mono&#8221;. </p>
<p>There is at least one firm that shows photos of the Mono 100 at their website, but ships the Mono, so be careful when ordering this pencil.</p>
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