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	<title>Comments on: Faber-Castell Perfect Pencil &#8211; 4</title>
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		<title>By: Matthias Meckel</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/06/faber-castell-perfect-pencil-4/comment-page-1#comment-36441</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Meckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and of course also at http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/06/faber-castell-perfect-pencil-5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and of course also at <a href="http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/06/faber-castell-perfect-pencil-5" rel="nofollow">http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/06/faber-castell-perfect-pencil-5</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Meckel</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/06/faber-castell-perfect-pencil-4/comment-page-1#comment-36440</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Meckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Andymeg,

The old version did not have a sharpener. You can find some photos and information (in German) about the differences at http://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=1683</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Andymeg,</p>
<p>The old version did not have a sharpener. You can find some photos and information (in German) about the differences at <a href="http://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=1683" rel="nofollow">http://www.penexchange.de/forum_neu/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=1683</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andymeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andymeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I just purchased a Graf von Faber Castell perfect pencil and cannot seem to find the sharpener in the extender.  Is it possible there is no sharpener?  That is one of the reasons I purchased the pencil.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I just purchased a Graf von Faber Castell perfect pencil and cannot seem to find the sharpener in the extender.  Is it possible there is no sharpener?  That is one of the reasons I purchased the pencil.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The No. III long pencil? Why would you want to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The No. III long pencil? Why would you want to?</p>
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		<title>By: jackieblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackieblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you add erasers to the long pencils?</description>
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		<title>By: craniopath</title>
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		<dc:creator>craniopath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Turkey it is possible to buy a 5pencil spare pack for 25€, but still very expensive. All other graf pens/pencils are expensive to buy but cheap (or as expensive as any other alternative) to use except for the perfect pencil which is a shame because they are really nice :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Turkey it is possible to buy a 5pencil spare pack for 25€, but still very expensive. All other graf pens/pencils are expensive to buy but cheap (or as expensive as any other alternative) to use except for the perfect pencil which is a shame because they are really nice :(</p>
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		<title>By: THE 10 STEPS TO CREATING THE SIMPLICITY YOU NEED TO MOVE FORWARD &#124; The Map Habit</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE 10 STEPS TO CREATING THE SIMPLICITY YOU NEED TO MOVE FORWARD &#124; The Map Habit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Faber-Castell Perfect Pencil &#8211; PencilTalk.org (I don&#8217;t have one &#8211; but I want one!) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Perfect Pencil</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Perfect Pencil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The first is what I write with: the Perfect Pencil by Faber-Castell. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Franco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking for pencils enough wide to fit in my platinum FCPP, I have finally founded one. It s the Caran d&#039;Ache Grafwood. I ve not yet used it, but it s really nice. Light, nice colour, a lot of gradations.
f

http://www.penciltalk.org/2008/04/caran-dache-grafwood-775-pencil

http://www.fredaldous.co.uk/shop-online/caran-dache-grafwood-pencils.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking for pencils enough wide to fit in my platinum FCPP, I have finally founded one. It s the Caran d&#8217;Ache Grafwood. I ve not yet used it, but it s really nice. Light, nice colour, a lot of gradations.<br />
f</p>
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		<title>By: Franco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alec
Thank you very much for the explanation. Meantime I had the opportunity to go in a shop and notice the differences between the platinum model and the silvers model. Definitely the platinum one is the model more &quot;stable&quot; as exterior.

About pencils: really thanks for the good advice. I saw the &quot;long model&quot; that you mention and , imagine, I even didn &#039;t ask the price because I thought they were even more expensive of the short models. I will go soon to buy them if they are cheap as you said ( I hope in Rome they are doing the same price policy....)

About the price: you are again right. I had to experience that GvFC pencils are more comfotable than the thin one. May be not enough to justify such big price but in any case enough to use them instead the normal pencils. Moreover I agree that on our desk we can use chepaer rubber :-)

Thanks a lot
fc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alec<br />
Thank you very much for the explanation. Meantime I had the opportunity to go in a shop and notice the differences between the platinum model and the silvers model. Definitely the platinum one is the model more &#8220;stable&#8221; as exterior.</p>
<p>About pencils: really thanks for the good advice. I saw the &#8220;long model&#8221; that you mention and , imagine, I even didn &#8216;t ask the price because I thought they were even more expensive of the short models. I will go soon to buy them if they are cheap as you said ( I hope in Rome they are doing the same price policy&#8230;.)</p>
<p>About the price: you are again right. I had to experience that GvFC pencils are more comfotable than the thin one. May be not enough to justify such big price but in any case enough to use them instead the normal pencils. Moreover I agree that on our desk we can use chepaer rubber :-)</p>
<p>Thanks a lot<br />
fc</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Franco,

There is a specific Graf von Faber-Castell pencil that is thick enough to work with these holders. Note the difference from Faber-Castell (like the 9000) and the Graf von Faber-Castell. 
There are two types of GvFC, one is pencil no. V, short with the place for an eraser and threads for the cap, the other is the &quot;long pencil&quot;, no eraser, no cap, but it is a bit longer and much cheaper. 

On the road i write with the No.V, when at my desk, I write with the long GvFC (or with a mitshu-bishi Hi-Uni for that matter) as they are much cheaper and an eraser or sharpener is easily found on my desk :D

I think the tickness of GvFC is not only there to force you to buy GvFC, it also is much more comfortable in my hands when  write long texts. But it does help you to buy these € 35 for 5 pieces of wood...... Now that is EXPENSIVE for a pencil IMHO

If it is sterling, it has a 925 mark at the back. 
if it is silver plated, it will show tarnish/blackening. 
If it is platinium plated it will stay perfect silver colored over time. 

There are differences in shape/design for each material, but that is harder to describe. As there are no marks sterling silver wouldn&#039;t be an option, if around theclip the material darkens it is plated, if it is perfect white/silver it should be platinum!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Franco,</p>
<p>There is a specific Graf von Faber-Castell pencil that is thick enough to work with these holders. Note the difference from Faber-Castell (like the 9000) and the Graf von Faber-Castell.<br />
There are two types of GvFC, one is pencil no. V, short with the place for an eraser and threads for the cap, the other is the &#8220;long pencil&#8221;, no eraser, no cap, but it is a bit longer and much cheaper. </p>
<p>On the road i write with the No.V, when at my desk, I write with the long GvFC (or with a mitshu-bishi Hi-Uni for that matter) as they are much cheaper and an eraser or sharpener is easily found on my desk :D</p>
<p>I think the tickness of GvFC is not only there to force you to buy GvFC, it also is much more comfortable in my hands when  write long texts. But it does help you to buy these € 35 for 5 pieces of wood&#8230;&#8230; Now that is EXPENSIVE for a pencil IMHO</p>
<p>If it is sterling, it has a 925 mark at the back.<br />
if it is silver plated, it will show tarnish/blackening.<br />
If it is platinium plated it will stay perfect silver colored over time. </p>
<p>There are differences in shape/design for each material, but that is harder to describe. As there are no marks sterling silver wouldn&#8217;t be an option, if around theclip the material darkens it is plated, if it is perfect white/silver it should be platinum!.</p>
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		<title>By: Franco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everybody, I live in Rome, Italy
I would need some help/advise.
I got as a gift a F-C Perfect Pencil. The model is the one shown on the pictures above. the question is : is it possible to understand which is the version I own ? (i.e. silver plated, platinum plated, etc). I checked with a widener lens but there is nothing on the body of the extender helping me. 

A remark about the pencils that works with this extender. I have also the cheap platinum F-C extender and definitely the pencils for that extender are not working with this one. They are too thin. I guess this is a policy of Faber Castell to force owner of this extender to but only expensive pencils. I m going to look for if there are other pencils in the market with the right diameter. Moreover this extender looks great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody, I live in Rome, Italy<br />
I would need some help/advise.<br />
I got as a gift a F-C Perfect Pencil. The model is the one shown on the pictures above. the question is : is it possible to understand which is the version I own ? (i.e. silver plated, platinum plated, etc). I checked with a widener lens but there is nothing on the body of the extender helping me. </p>
<p>A remark about the pencils that works with this extender. I have also the cheap platinum F-C extender and definitely the pencils for that extender are not working with this one. They are too thin. I guess this is a policy of Faber Castell to force owner of this extender to but only expensive pencils. I m going to look for if there are other pencils in the market with the right diameter. Moreover this extender looks great.</p>
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