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	<title>Comments on: Five black dyed pencils</title>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2009/09/five-black-dyed-pencils/comment-page-1#comment-35932</link>
		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the comments. I&#039;m surprised that no one has come forth with a usage case for this category.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;where can you get any of them?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Faber-Castell is the world&#039;s largest pencil manufacturer. The question may be, &quot;where can&#039;t you get them?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the comments. I&#8217;m surprised that no one has come forth with a usage case for this category.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;where can you get any of them?&#8221;</i> Faber-Castell is the world&#8217;s largest pencil manufacturer. The question may be, &#8220;where can&#8217;t you get them?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ccorrada</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccorrada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where can you get any of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where can you get any of them?</p>
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		<title>By: ana</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2009/09/five-black-dyed-pencils/comment-page-1#comment-35898</link>
		<dc:creator>ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They look so lovely altogether! I love the original F-C Grip 2001 so I&#039;ll be on the lookout for the Design all-black version. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They look so lovely altogether! I love the original F-C Grip 2001 so I&#8217;ll be on the lookout for the Design all-black version. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to pencils.jp - I expect, to be bankrupt at the end of the month :-)
As for black pencils with black dyed wood - well, I like to be able to see and feel the wood, so I&#039;m no big fan...
regards 
Henrik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to pencils.jp &#8211; I expect, to be bankrupt at the end of the month :-)<br />
As for black pencils with black dyed wood &#8211; well, I like to be able to see and feel the wood, so I&#8217;m no big fan&#8230;<br />
regards<br />
Henrik</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwi-d</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiwi-d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the alert re pencils.jp</description>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
		<link>http://www.penciltalk.org/2009/09/five-black-dyed-pencils/comment-page-1#comment-35889</link>
		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name on the pencil is bilingual, and probably refers to the larger product line - I mentioned only the German name for the sake of brevity. In French, it is the Biella &quot;Collection Classeur fédéral&quot;.

It can be ordered from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nota-bene.ca/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Papeterie Nota Bene&lt;/a&gt; in Canada, and probably other places. But that shop doesn&#039;t offer &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.schaefer-shop.ch/shop/biella-bundesordner-color-toblerone-gratis/2,685,685,10074151,0,0,PG/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Toblerone&lt;/a&gt; with their order. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name on the pencil is bilingual, and probably refers to the larger product line &#8211; I mentioned only the German name for the sake of brevity. In French, it is the Biella &#8220;Collection Classeur fédéral&#8221;.</p>
<p>It can be ordered from <a href="http://www.nota-bene.ca/" rel="nofollow">Papeterie Nota Bene</a> in Canada, and probably other places. But that shop doesn&#8217;t offer <a href="http://www.schaefer-shop.ch/shop/biella-bundesordner-color-toblerone-gratis/2,685,685,10074151,0,0,PG/" rel="nofollow">Toblerone</a> with their order. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Biella Bundesordner&quot;? What a weird name! Where can it be purchased?

Regarding pencils.jp: Wow! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Biella Bundesordner&#8221;? What a weird name! Where can it be purchased?</p>
<p>Regarding pencils.jp: Wow! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: penciladmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>penciladmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Futural, good questions all. Faber-Castell trumpets their environmental credentials. I wonder what they would say?

CasualLead, thank you, if this were a full review, I&#039;d welcome more examples, but the post is more just a quick look at a few representatives of the genre. 

Sean, thanks for sharing those observations. You&#039;ve reminded me that there is apparently also a lower-cost perfect pencil out there that I haven&#039;t yet seen.

Pictures of my collection? If I had a collection that might be possible. It is more like an unwieldy accumulation at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Futural, good questions all. Faber-Castell trumpets their environmental credentials. I wonder what they would say?</p>
<p>CasualLead, thank you, if this were a full review, I&#8217;d welcome more examples, but the post is more just a quick look at a few representatives of the genre. </p>
<p>Sean, thanks for sharing those observations. You&#8217;ve reminded me that there is apparently also a lower-cost perfect pencil out there that I haven&#8217;t yet seen.</p>
<p>Pictures of my collection? If I had a collection that might be possible. It is more like an unwieldy accumulation at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just received some Kirin pencils and they are quite nice, and seem physically lighter than most despite having a ferrule and eraser. The other all-black that I&#039;ve tried is the all-black perfect pencil (the one with the plastic extender, also in black). They seem no different than those sold with the UFO version of the same, but they have a curiously silky finish to them.  I&#039;d really like to get some of the silver and black refills for the perfect pencil, but it seems you can only get them when you buy the whole package (which is available in only a few select places). I really like the black design pencil, but I find that the lead is just too light...the same with the current black design pencil.

On an unrelated note: do you think someday you might post a series of pictures showing us the extent of your collection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received some Kirin pencils and they are quite nice, and seem physically lighter than most despite having a ferrule and eraser. The other all-black that I&#8217;ve tried is the all-black perfect pencil (the one with the plastic extender, also in black). They seem no different than those sold with the UFO version of the same, but they have a curiously silky finish to them.  I&#8217;d really like to get some of the silver and black refills for the perfect pencil, but it seems you can only get them when you buy the whole package (which is available in only a few select places). I really like the black design pencil, but I find that the lead is just too light&#8230;the same with the current black design pencil.</p>
<p>On an unrelated note: do you think someday you might post a series of pictures showing us the extent of your collection?</p>
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		<title>By: CasuaLead</title>
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		<dc:creator>CasuaLead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discount/novelty section of the few Borders bookstores I often visit always have packages of 4 or 5 such all-black pencils for, yes, a discount price. I&#039;m not particularly taken by them, but I could pick up a pack to send your way for a review if you are interested. My suspicion is they would act as a low end on the quality scale, but that&#039;s useful for a ranged comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discount/novelty section of the few Borders bookstores I often visit always have packages of 4 or 5 such all-black pencils for, yes, a discount price. I&#8217;m not particularly taken by them, but I could pick up a pack to send your way for a review if you are interested. My suspicion is they would act as a low end on the quality scale, but that&#8217;s useful for a ranged comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Futural</title>
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		<dc:creator>Futural</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the pictures and the link, great. Does anybody know what type of wood is used in these type of pencils? And how is the process to dye them? Is it chemical or natural dye? Maybe could answer Mr. Woodchuck thank you for share your Information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the pictures and the link, great. Does anybody know what type of wood is used in these type of pencils? And how is the process to dye them? Is it chemical or natural dye? Maybe could answer Mr. Woodchuck thank you for share your Information.</p>
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